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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Nov 26, 2011 12:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Opinions sought, re: Single Europe '72 Shows

Friends...

Not having the means to dish out for the full Europe '72 boxed set of all shows, I now notice the official site is offering single shows of the tour you can buy separately.

An impossible question, but for kicks, if you could recommend one singular sensation of those shows--a must have--for whatever reason(s), which show would it be?

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Poster: clementinescaboose Date: Nov 26, 2011 2:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Opinions sought, re: Single Europe '72 Shows

I would probably have to agree that Rotterdam is the best of the tour; the whole show from start to finish is amazing really. But like cliff said the Dark Star is a level of improv that I don't think was duplicate before or after this remarkable performance.

It's a tough call though, Grendel; the incredible level of consistency during this tour makes it nearly impossible to pick just ONE that is the 'must own'. If you already own Steppin' Out, Hundred Year Hall and Rockin' the rein then you have the best parts of 4/8, 4/24, and 4/26 albeit in a somewhat different mix. So I'd say maybe give 4/14 and 5/26 a spin before you make a final decision...

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Poster: quinn_76! Date: Mar 14, 2013 9:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Opinions sought, re: Single Europe '72 Shows

Yup, would have to agree with you, clem, but one cannot forget the first night in Paris 5/3! An all around stellar show, fo sho. The truckin' through wharf medley is one for the ages. Not to mention that China->rider, Tn. Jed, and Jack Straw wall all culled form this show for the official Euro '72 album. I've always felt that 4/26 is the most overrated show of the tour, while 5/3 is the most underrated...

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Nov 26, 2011 5:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Opinions sought, re: Single Europe '72 Shows

All great suggestions...knew you guys would come thru...I'll contemplate and make a decision b4 the holidays.

I needed to ask b/c the set lists are so similar it's really hard to distinguish w/out getting the views of folks who've really delved into the nitty gritty of the material.

Cliff's enthusiasm for Rotterdam looms large!

GC

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Poster: fireeagle Date: Nov 27, 2011 5:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Opinions sought, re: Single Europe '72 Shows

despite the indisputable excellence of 05-11 and 05-26 i would recommend wigan 05-07
colossal ds > too jam is the spaciest and heaviest piece of the whole tour (imo)

however, the star shone darkest in hamburg 04-29 and the instant transition from the mighty space turbulence into sugar magnolia is nothing short of masterpiece

04-08 is great as well...

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Poster: dylan&theded Date: Nov 27, 2011 6:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Opinions sought, re: Single Europe '72 Shows

5-4

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Nov 27, 2011 8:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Opinions sought, re: Single Europe '72 Shows

Rotterdam is a good first choice, but you might also want an "Other One Night" show, also . The show before, 5/10/72, in Amsterdam, is great , and the 5/3 Paris show is another great one for The Other One . You might look at set lists, to see where the least
is . But if it is only one, Rotterdam .

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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Nov 28, 2011 8:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: And the winner is...

After much hand-wringing and the kind of indecision that can lead to a catatonic state if allowed to continue for too long, I decided to pull the trigger on 5/10/72, Amsterdam.

The deciding factor was that a friend was able to get me a copy of the 5/11/72 Dark Star in pretty high quality, so having that, I figured the epic "Other One" talked about so much from 5/10 was a nice companion piece.

Thanks also to the forumite who reminded me that today is CyberMonday so I saved 20% plus got the free shipping.

I again appreciate all the feedback from those who know the nuances of these shows so well...it can drive you crazy trying to choose one show from the tour when the set lists are almost identical (yet, I realize the playing itself is of A+ quality and I consider 1972 to be the band's best, most consistent year second only to the glory that is 1977.)

For example, almost every show seems to have an NFA>GDTR>NFA sandwich, yet 5/11 is considered a stand-out (I've got a line on a copy of that as well; yet another reason I chose 5/10 to purchase.)

Happy listening to all!

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Poster: rdenirojb87 Date: Nov 26, 2011 1:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Opinions sought, re: Single Europe '72 Shows

in addition to 5/11, i find the last show, 5/26, to be almost as good.

although the first sets can get a tad boring from this tour, this one was certainly doesn't. it has what might be my favorite nfa>gdtrfb>nfa of all-time. the original europe 72 release had this version, but excluded when the audience starts the bo diddley, which prompts the band to go into nfa. truly a special moment, and a special performance. not a weak moment in the show. he's gone is a very special version as well. jerry's vocals are outstanding, and it contains a very cool, unique outro. check out cliff's notes for the other highlights:

A monumental performance, the band has pulled out all the stops for their last show of the tour. The nineteen song 2+ hour first set, perhaps the finest of the tour, is a monster, featuring fantastic performances of Cumberland Blues, Jack Straw, China/Rider, Playin' in the Band and a surprise Dire Wolf. Concluding with a jammed out NFA> GDTRFB> NFA, this set on its own would have been a great show. But of course the band still has a bit of magic left in the tank, the second set comencing with a jam suite right off the bat. This one will sound very familiar with the incredible Truckin' and Morning Dew immortalized on Europe '72 split by an epic 35+ minute, largely percusion driven performance of The Other One which gets reprised twice. The post Truckin' "Epilogue" is phenomenal. Seamless, it's difficult to discern where Truckin' ends and The Other One begins, Jerry and Keith are locked in so tightly. A brief but intense bass solo preceeds the intro theme. After a great drum solo the theme fires up again. Keiths playing is extraordinary here. During a brief segment just prior to the first verse he sounds like Steve Winwood. The following ten minute post-verse "Prelude" to Morning Dew is one of the most compelling passages that the band has ever played. After the phenomenal performance of Morning Dew the band finds their way back into The Other One. Three minutes into second reprise there is some rather cool interplay between Weir and Garcia which its followed by a brief but sublime duet between Pigpen and Keith that must be heard to be believed. Simply beautiful, it's an amazing conclusion to this epic tour. (100 pts)

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Nov 26, 2011 2:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Opinions sought, re: Single Europe '72 Shows

The 5/18 show from Munich is a gem,the first set has good versions of Jack Straw,Tennessee Jed and El Paso and extraordinary versions of Black Throated Wind,China -> Rider,You Win Again and Casey Jones.
Before the serious music in the second set begins the boys do a really good Ramble on Rose, then it is on to Dark Star which on this night is a masterpiece,it runs the gamut of emotions and glides into a very good Morning Dew that goes into a rippin' Sugar Mag.The show closes with a potent Saturday Night.

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Poster: Lou Davenport Date: Nov 26, 2011 3:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Opinions sought, re: Single Europe '72 Shows

I'm going to disagree on this one--I found the jamming on 5-18 at best average (relative to other shows from that great tour).

4-29 from Hamburg, by contrast, has really inventive jamming on both the long and short numbers. Only drawback is the sound quality isn't quite as sharp as the best-recorded shows on the tour.

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Nov 26, 2011 6:27pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Opinions sought, re: Single Europe '72 Shows

Well that clears that up then Lou,what you like is better,after all the jamming is more inventive.

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Poster: portmcgroin Date: Nov 28, 2011 4:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Opinions sought, re: Single Europe '72 Shows

free shipping and 20% off today at dead.net. Now you might have to get two.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Nov 26, 2011 12:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Opinions sought, re: Single Europe '72 Shows

5/11 Rotterdam!

Disc # 3 is the single greatest disc of music that the Grateful Dead have ever officially released. It just might be the finest 48 minutes of music that the band has ever played. And it's quite possibly represents Phil Lesh's finest hour with the Grateful Dead...